Thursday, 28 April 2016

The commenting on local services: convention

Prompted by several recent threads here, I have been pondering on the issue of feedback to local businesses (whether they are a local small business or part of a larger chain). I think we are all agreed that positive feedback is to be welcomed as it helps boost our local economy as well as praise the local people who work there. It is a universal good thing!
However, what is evidently more controversial is when that feedback is negative. Some people seem of the view that this should not be posted here and say this site risks becoming a 'spotted-like' site with loads of back-biting etc. Others say no, surely if someone has received poor service why should they not be able to talk about it? This FB group is not just a 'pollyannaish' place..etc. Others (and some have done this privately to me) raise questions of litigation / defamation / libel etc... And there are many other positions too!
I take on board all views and here is what I would like to say in response:
1) No one should post here anything that could be defamatory or libellous. If you do, then you run the risk of being sued. Of course if it merely a personal opinion or (of course) factual, then no such litigation could ensue (although - if the lawyers wish to comment - please do so..)
2) If you do have something negative to say about a business, I would hope that you would have pursued ordinary feedback routes first, and sought resolution with the business directly. If that route fails, then I think it is OK to give your views here. But take care: do you ~really~ need to say this in a public forum? Is it helping make the world a better place?
3) If you represent a business on the receiving end of such negative feedback, you are welcome to respond here. It may well be that you will wish to take the conversation offline with your aggrieved customer and not have some big debate in this public space, of course. Of course, it may also be the case that your business has a policy of not engaging in social media conversations. That is of course the company's choice. My view however is that in this day and age, that policy may have to change...
4) It is for the person who posts to choose whether to name the business concerned or not. They may prefer to 'subtweet' as it were, and leave the business name out of the debate. Or they may wish to be raising a wider issue... But, in my view, it is not for other people to assume they know which business they mean.
5) And all of this should be done under the general 'netiquette' guidelines - disagree but don't be disagreeable... (and for the record, in my book, that 'disagreeableness' includes use of any swear words or discriminatory comments of any type such as racist, homophobic etc etc...)
6) When the admin team have been directly or indirectly (via reporting) asked to remove/delete a thread or post - if we choose to leave a thread/post up - that does ~not~ mean we agree with it or that we disagree with it. It simply means that we think that the thread has not broken the guidelines on these pages. We are not responsible for any content that some people think might be libellous etc. And if you don't agree with our decision, you can always report the thread to FB central as it were. Better still, why not try talking with the person in a private message?
... lights blue touch paper....
PS - I am always available to post anonymous responses if the business wishes me to - in order to protect the personal names of some of the individuals involved.
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Sue Brunton Wise words ,just glad I'm not admin ! X
LikeReply125 April at 08:53
David Haynes Steeple Claydon Forum are going to start a recomended trades list in the near future, maybe we could do the same.
LikeReply425 April at 08:56
Valentina Milanova Very sensible! Thank you!
Paula Jane Jaggard Brilliant idea
Jon Harvey PS - I am always available to post anonymous responses if the business wishes me to - in order to protect the personal names of some of the individuals involved.
LikeReply125 April at 09:09
Robin Smith I support you completely with what you state Jon. Often people don't realise that posting things on social media can have consequences.
David Haynes J.V.S. on 3CR has a similar policy.
LikeReply125 April at 09:20
Karen Seaton I've only been on this site a few weeks now and whilst it's mostly informative, I have to say I see the same names crop up time after time when there's an opportunity to moan or be negative, for arguments sake. It's quite sad that you're having to comp...See more
UnlikeReply1525 April at 09:27Edited
Nell Payne Very well written Jon and very fair and sensible posting advice.
Phillippa Ashley I fully agree with all other postees. It is our democratic right to say what we think but there is no need to be nasty, racist, homophobic, sexist etc about it! Or to get into the realm of lawyers and courts.
LikeReply125 April at 10:03Edited
Catherine Gough Like the idea of recommended tradespeople list. Opted out of Spotted because of the negativity
LikeReply125 April at 10:11
Ryan Jones I have my own Business, I have also worked in customer service since I left school, I leave positive and negative posts/comments alike where I feel it necessary to do so, if negative I have always given plenty of chance to said company to resolve the i...See more
LikeReply125 April at 10:53Edited
Ryan Jones I know that's technically what you have done here already but a pinned post would make it clear and cover everyone.
Jon Harvey This is pinned at the moment but I take your point
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Bren Roberts Seems fair Jon. You have obviously had a long hard think about this. I don't envy you and Janey keeping us lot in line.
LikeReply125 April at 12:42
Jon Harvey I would add that I have been in business for over 25 years, much of that time offering consultancy on customer care & service quality improvement... Imo all feedback is a gift - even the stuff that is hard to swallow. Businesses only thrive when they stay tuned into what their customers want & need
LikeReply325 April at 13:06
Kellie Vincent Very true! All feedback is valuable and often those who manage great service recovery have every opportunity to turn an angry customer into their biggest advocate.
Sharron Kay Totally agree. Feedback to a service provider on your experience, offering suggestions for improvement if necessary, is invaluable, especially if given in a calm, controlled manner.
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Zoe Garnham I think the idea of recommendations is good. Not necessarily feedback as such.
Jay Harwood Well said. It is a democracy after all.......
Jimmy Gallagher sometimes when we receive awful service or food not being as ordered it is not being nasty to share the experience and warn others too many business take us for granted in one local hotel the staff couldn't understand that they were actually rec...See more
LikeReply225 April at 20:48
Sarah Clark Its always hard as a company to know what to do for the best when a complaint makes it to social media, getting into a slanging match is not good for your reputation, We are human and lets face it even the best company's make mistakes. Speaking for our...See more
LikeReply1Yesterday at 09:30
Jimmy Gallagher you run a excellent business probable the best service in town always going the extra mile i will always support you cheers jimmy
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David Haynes Well said, Sarah.

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